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		<title>By: Kate Logan</title>
		<link>http://www.mrhiggins.net/blog/2006/10/31/it-is-easierbut-what-does-that-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-356</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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Chris,
I&#039;d like to respond to the points you made one at a time, but we didn&#039;t start 
  a school that was &quot;easier&quot; than regular high school. All of our students 
  will say that it is academically harder than traditional high school. All of 
  our classes meet Wyoming state standards, and most exceed the standards. We 
  offer a large catalog that most small high schools in Wyoming can&#039;t offer. We 
  offer an alternative to traditional HS where a lot of our students don&#039;t do 
  well socially or behaviorly. All of our students are considered &quot;at-risk&quot; 
  for being drop outs and most of them have been drop outs at one time or another. 
  We are not dealing with the top 10-25% of students who want an extra challenge 
  or find a traditional HS boring. We are dealing with the kids who disappear 
  from your class and no one ever knows what happens to them after that.
&lt;em&gt;It is easier because you don&#8217;t have to worry about doing the same 
  thing at the same time everyday.
  &lt;/em&gt;During our first semester we didn&#039;t have any rules about when students 
  worked on certain classes, how much they got done, etc... We quickly learned 
  that our student body couldn&#039;t budget their time and they needed structure. 
  In our school, there are blocks of time, usually an hour and thirty minutes 
  that are dedicated to the core four subjects. Students work on the math class 
  they are in during the math block, and so forth. Our teachers talk to our kids 
  everyday to make sure they are making progress in their classes. If they students 
  wants to work beyond the school day, that option is available, but during the 
  school day when they come into our building there is a schedule that is followed. 
  Students are only allowed to check personal email before 8:30, during the lunch 
  1/2 hour or after 3:30. During the &quot;school day&quot; it is all academics, 
  all the time.
&lt;em&gt;It is easier because you don&#8217;t have to conform to rules and regulations 
  like no candy, a dress code, and other structures that students like to violate 
  on a daily basis.
  &lt;/em&gt;We have rules and regulations. Students can&#039;t eat or drink at their computer 
  station, bottled water is the exception. We share a campus with th K-8 building 
  so when the kids are in the lunch room, the follow the lunch room rules. When 
  they are in the library, they follow the library rules. When they are in the 
  HS building they follow the HS rules that include: not bothering other students, 
  keeping your music down to a level that only the student can hear it in their 
  headphones, no fighting, no cussing, etc.. This is standard HS stuff.
&lt;em&gt;It is easier because most of the work is directly to the point, without 
  the embellishments that teachers add from time to time.
  &lt;/em&gt;All of the work is directly to the point which doesn&#039;t automatically make 
  it easier. There is no waiting for slower students to catch up before a teacher 
  moves on. The whole class isn&#039;t waiting for a few students to &quot;get with 
  the rest of us.&quot; Students can re-read content, take a quiz or a test on 
  the day they feel prepared, respond thoughtfully to a discussion question, research 
  a topic further, and so on. Students aren&#039;t put on the spot with a on-the-spot 
  response from a rapid fire question. Other students and teachers don&#039;t automatically 
  know what race they are, how much they weigh, what clique they fit into, the 
  is an equal playing field. This is the same in that I don&#039;t know what you look 
  like, what race or sex you are. All I am dealing with is your opinion, nothing 
  else. 
&lt;em&gt;Finally, it is easier because they don&#8217;t have to deal with teachers, 
  they learn only as much as they want to at a time.
  &lt;/em&gt;In our school, the student is in charge of thier learning and progress; 
  not the teacher. The student will only succeed if they do the work required 
  in the course. Our teachers won&#039;t issue a grade below a &quot;C.&quot; If the 
  work isn&#039;t at least up to a &quot;C&quot; level, the student has to re-do the 
  assignment, quiz, discussion question, whatever it is. The student never fails 
  the course, it is just &quot;incomplete&quot; until it is completed. The responsibility 
  for learning lies 100% with the student. Teachers are there to guide, coach, 
  encourage, mentor, explain, and facalitate the students. But no grades are issued 
  until the student has completed the course to the &quot;C&quot; level. Our students 
  deal with at least two teachers for every class they take. There is an online 
  or virtual teacher who takes care of the nuts and bolts of the class like grading, 
  responding to student questions, etc... Then there are four other teachers in 
  our building (one for each core subject matter) who work with each and every 
  student who comes through the door on thier classes. Students don&#039;t come to 
  our school to get away from teachers, they get a double or even triple dose.
In closing, I don&#039;t think our courses or school is easier than traditional 
  high school. It is different and for almost all of our students, it is the last 
  shot they&#039;ll take at high school. If they don&#039;t succeed here, they will probably 
  drop out of HS for good. There are a ton of reasons why a particular student 
  doesn&#039;t do well in a traditional high school. Only one of them is academic ability. 
  All of the other reasons have nothing to do with academics or wanting things 
  to be &quot;easier&quot; in an academic manner. And finially, we are the first 
  to admit that online learning isn&#039;t for every kid. Some kids just don&#039;t do well 
  in our school. We have had a lot of kids who started with use and realized that 
  &quot;woah, I have to do all of the work, I can&#039;t sit in the back of the class 
  and hope no one notices, I can&#039;t pass this class until I complete every single 
  assignment to at least a &quot;c&quot; level...I&#039;m going back to regular HS 
  where it is easier.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,<br />
I&#8217;d like to respond to the points you made one at a time, but we didn&#8217;t start<br />
  a school that was &quot;easier&quot; than regular high school. All of our students<br />
  will say that it is academically harder than traditional high school. All of<br />
  our classes meet Wyoming state standards, and most exceed the standards. We<br />
  offer a large catalog that most small high schools in Wyoming can&#8217;t offer. We<br />
  offer an alternative to traditional HS where a lot of our students don&#8217;t do<br />
  well socially or behaviorly. All of our students are considered &quot;at-risk&quot;<br />
  for being drop outs and most of them have been drop outs at one time or another.<br />
  We are not dealing with the top 10-25% of students who want an extra challenge<br />
  or find a traditional HS boring. We are dealing with the kids who disappear<br />
  from your class and no one ever knows what happens to them after that.<br />
<em>It is easier because you don&#8217;t have to worry about doing the same<br />
  thing at the same time everyday.<br />
  </em>During our first semester we didn&#8217;t have any rules about when students<br />
  worked on certain classes, how much they got done, etc&#8230; We quickly learned<br />
  that our student body couldn&#8217;t budget their time and they needed structure.<br />
  In our school, there are blocks of time, usually an hour and thirty minutes<br />
  that are dedicated to the core four subjects. Students work on the math class<br />
  they are in during the math block, and so forth. Our teachers talk to our kids<br />
  everyday to make sure they are making progress in their classes. If they students<br />
  wants to work beyond the school day, that option is available, but during the<br />
  school day when they come into our building there is a schedule that is followed.<br />
  Students are only allowed to check personal email before 8:30, during the lunch<br />
  1/2 hour or after 3:30. During the &quot;school day&quot; it is all academics,<br />
  all the time.<br />
<em>It is easier because you don&#8217;t have to conform to rules and regulations<br />
  like no candy, a dress code, and other structures that students like to violate<br />
  on a daily basis.<br />
  </em>We have rules and regulations. Students can&#8217;t eat or drink at their computer<br />
  station, bottled water is the exception. We share a campus with th K-8 building<br />
  so when the kids are in the lunch room, the follow the lunch room rules. When<br />
  they are in the library, they follow the library rules. When they are in the<br />
  HS building they follow the HS rules that include: not bothering other students,<br />
  keeping your music down to a level that only the student can hear it in their<br />
  headphones, no fighting, no cussing, etc.. This is standard HS stuff.<br />
<em>It is easier because most of the work is directly to the point, without<br />
  the embellishments that teachers add from time to time.<br />
  </em>All of the work is directly to the point which doesn&#8217;t automatically make<br />
  it easier. There is no waiting for slower students to catch up before a teacher<br />
  moves on. The whole class isn&#8217;t waiting for a few students to &quot;get with<br />
  the rest of us.&quot; Students can re-read content, take a quiz or a test on<br />
  the day they feel prepared, respond thoughtfully to a discussion question, research<br />
  a topic further, and so on. Students aren&#8217;t put on the spot with a on-the-spot<br />
  response from a rapid fire question. Other students and teachers don&#8217;t automatically<br />
  know what race they are, how much they weigh, what clique they fit into, the<br />
  is an equal playing field. This is the same in that I don&#8217;t know what you look<br />
  like, what race or sex you are. All I am dealing with is your opinion, nothing<br />
  else.<br />
<em>Finally, it is easier because they don&#8217;t have to deal with teachers,<br />
  they learn only as much as they want to at a time.<br />
  </em>In our school, the student is in charge of thier learning and progress;<br />
  not the teacher. The student will only succeed if they do the work required<br />
  in the course. Our teachers won&#8217;t issue a grade below a &quot;C.&quot; If the<br />
  work isn&#8217;t at least up to a &quot;C&quot; level, the student has to re-do the<br />
  assignment, quiz, discussion question, whatever it is. The student never fails<br />
  the course, it is just &quot;incomplete&quot; until it is completed. The responsibility<br />
  for learning lies 100% with the student. Teachers are there to guide, coach,<br />
  encourage, mentor, explain, and facalitate the students. But no grades are issued<br />
  until the student has completed the course to the &quot;C&quot; level. Our students<br />
  deal with at least two teachers for every class they take. There is an online<br />
  or virtual teacher who takes care of the nuts and bolts of the class like grading,<br />
  responding to student questions, etc&#8230; Then there are four other teachers in<br />
  our building (one for each core subject matter) who work with each and every<br />
  student who comes through the door on thier classes. Students don&#8217;t come to<br />
  our school to get away from teachers, they get a double or even triple dose.<br />
In closing, I don&#8217;t think our courses or school is easier than traditional<br />
  high school. It is different and for almost all of our students, it is the last<br />
  shot they&#8217;ll take at high school. If they don&#8217;t succeed here, they will probably<br />
  drop out of HS for good. There are a ton of reasons why a particular student<br />
  doesn&#8217;t do well in a traditional high school. Only one of them is academic ability.<br />
  All of the other reasons have nothing to do with academics or wanting things<br />
  to be &quot;easier&quot; in an academic manner. And finially, we are the first<br />
  to admit that online learning isn&#8217;t for every kid. Some kids just don&#8217;t do well<br />
  in our school. We have had a lot of kids who started with use and realized that<br />
  &quot;woah, I have to do all of the work, I can&#8217;t sit in the back of the class<br />
  and hope no one notices, I can&#8217;t pass this class until I complete every single<br />
  assignment to at least a &quot;c&quot; level&#8230;I&#8217;m going back to regular HS<br />
  where it is easier.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Alfred Thompson</title>
		<link>http://www.mrhiggins.net/blog/2006/10/31/it-is-easierbut-what-does-that-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-325</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfred Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are some interesting observations. I think that it is clear that we can learn a lot from talking and listening to our students. At the same time some of the answers point out that students are generally not ready to control their own educations as much as they think they are. Some where along the line they will have to learn to deal with people in authority, learn to follow rules, and other things that school teaches but that are not part of the standardized tests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are some interesting observations. I think that it is clear that we can learn a lot from talking and listening to our students. At the same time some of the answers point out that students are generally not ready to control their own educations as much as they think they are. Some where along the line they will have to learn to deal with people in authority, learn to follow rules, and other things that school teaches but that are not part of the standardized tests.</p>
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